Lee Fogarty has a chat with George Cropper
A conversation between Lee Fogarty (talking in grey) and George Cropper (talking in blue).
can you please stop lying about me and spreading bad feeling mate it's pathetic
hello, lee, what does it cost to run the site ? it can't be lost, certainly not the site side of things, and i think i'd be happy to stump up for it.
Lee Fogarty accepted your request.
It's around £75pm with VAT. Cost has never really been an issue.
Besides that, I'd have to say no as WoS doesn't take donations or payments. Thanks for the offer though.
i'd like to take over, wholesale
The preservation team won't allow that, and having spoken to Martijn, he won't transfer it. I'm still looking into the implications of the preservation team pulling their files out
Why don't you consider instead renaming your site to something universally accepted and focus on the products? I hear they are excellent quality - so if they are branded well and not associated with the videos, you'll attract more copyright holders and buyers - you're in a good position to do well there.
i do like the name, mate
it's a bit of (bum)fun :)
i think people should be able to see past that if they want to support a quality product
Yes but they won't so you'd have to be more universal. It's not for them to adapt as they'll just go elsewhere.
there are no other software companies putting out ZX Spectrum games at the quality and rate I am at the moment, though, so if they want those games they do have to come through me or of course just use an emulator rather than buying them
lee what is going on with the vega+ production. you told me you saw the devices in production months ago now we're seeing the soap bar pre-production design. why did you lie mate ?
what's going on ?
14th of July, mate, this is clearly nonsense ! it's STILL not in full production even now and the prototype case proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
i just want to know what's going on, mate, there have clearly been lies told to people and it's not on.
It will all come out in a few weeks what's been going on. That bar of soap was made after rick was paid so bear that in mind...
The photo was only released to stop the rumour he hadn't been paid.
ok but why did you say you'd seen the units in production ?
is it still on track for this month ?
this whole thing could have been handled a lot better :(
no it couldn't and you'll see why in a few weeks
that's what people at the vega+ have been saying for the entire project, though, that's my point :(
it's not an episode of columbo :P
not much more can be said.
No it's not - but there's no point saying anything at the moment.
why not ? surely this is a good time to be saying things, no ?
is there a legal reason why you can't say anything ?
is the device in production yet ?
no its not a good time to be saying anything, yes there are legal reasons why, yes it is in production
and it will ship at the end of this month ?
the date of the 16th was put out by Andrews - it was always going to be end of sept, and SMS can do 1000 in a day - and it doesn't take months to produce - once everything is ready it takes around 8 days
"production" is a lot more than just switching the machine on, but the machines are ready and capable of starting - that I have seen, and a prototype produced
a select few are also being booked for a proper tour over the next couple of weeks. And there is a very good reason why there are no photos
so you didn't actually see the devices in production when you'd said you had ?
so they were being produced 2 months ago ?
They went through the production process
this is a bit like the crystal maze
but with edward tudor pole instead of richard o brien
Andrews knows the production process - or he should.
Also - indigogo don't allow that amount of comments to be removed. They have advised they are removed because they can see where they are coming from. Likewise, twitter have provided IP addresses and registration details to the relevant people
facebook aren't as helpful
what do you mean ? you're reporting people on twitter for talking about the project ?
no - it's not "people"
and what indiegogo comments ?
there were 2000 tweets sent on saturday from one IP address
and complaints made to 3 separate police forces - I have the numbers and have to go make a statement in the morning
how can someone send 2000 tweets ?
is that physically possible ?
in a day ?
he was busy
there were over 200 from one account
and what about the other 1800 ?
also what does that have to do with the police ?
and who is it that is doing this what are the twitter accounts ?
I haven't seen the details from twitter yet, so it's possible others were posting from his accounts - they have a list of known IP addresses per tweet - wos forums stores the same, so they have linked registered IP address with known IP address and drawn a conclusion themselves
I only know why I have to go - no idea what else has been reported. I got case numbers but won't know until tomorrow. I know one of them is NickH
who is NickH
what have these people been saying that neccesitates police involvement, though ?
that's what i don't understand here
my guess is targeted harassment
but what will that result in ? surely it will just make them more annoyed if they get pulled up about it ?
It's a jailing offence
i find this whole "going to the police about the internet" thing quite perplexing to be honest
can't you just mute them ?
seems a bit extreme to me, mate
too late for that
but i suppose 2000 tweets is a touch, erm, "extreme" :P
and this is why nothing can be said about the project or ?
the battle of wizards, indeed !
what do you think the warlock of firetop mountain would make of all this, lee ?
a dim view would be taken of it
btw - nick cooper has gone very quiet
is that nick cooper the same person you just told me about yersry ?
no - hes the guy on fb
maybe he's had his collar felt :P
wouldnt surprise me
he is from kent
i can see that on his page
bob majors is from dronfield - as is stuart black
so who did the 2000 tweets ?
gamerjay, bobmajors, zxkingpin, nickH, some others
I don't have the list - I guess I will find out tomorrow
so, how did you come across the info that clive had been ill? Not many people knew that
i know people who work in public relations in London who knew that i was told it a while ago.
i heard it was also in some papers, too, in small articles. apparently. i don't know, i don't get the UK papers here.
so a fair few people must have known i suppose !
Nobody knew afaik - only clives family, me and the RC team
"gamerjay, bobmajors, zxkingpin, nickH" so these are all one and the same person ?
no - its two or three - there are others but they are these under different names
gamerjay is most likely zxkinkpin
and who's that ?
I won't know until tomorrow
assuming they tell me
exciting times ! are you looking forward to it ?
when will this all be resolved
over the next few weeks
and when will the vega+ news and console be 100% ready ?
also what is happening about the book ?
it will all be in the book lol
will it be available as a pdf ? :P
and they are still on track for shipping to backers end of sept
well that would be interesting
i'm interested to see how this all pans out
it's been a real debacle up until now
that seems to have reached a real crescendo of late
if it hadn't been for the shit, the recreated spectrum backers would have been bailed out as a goodwill gesture
what do you mean bailed out ?
recreated zx spectrum backers ?
yeah - a lot were left in the lurch, and the manufacturers screwed
yes i got my money back thankfully
the litigation etc still goes on between wilcox and cpl or whatever they're called
a lot didn't, but the units were made
it's a disgrace
he was sinking and trying to float. so now theres units he could sell but cant
it must have been worse than that for cpl not to extend credit until they were sold
the whole thing was a disgrace
i spoke to him on the phone about it
just lie after lie
He's a strange one
he's an odd one i know loads of people who have done and currently do work for him
I met him a few times when I was a kid
what is going on with world of spectrum ?
are these twitter posters the same people causing trouble there ?
At the moment, it's all on hold until the vega stuff is sorted, then we'll see whats left in the aftermath
I'm not putting any effort into concentrating on all the shit plus WoS at the same time
so you are working for RCL ?
or it's just a "hobby" :P
My company invoices them in the same way it invoices me for WoS
so why are you bothering to even dirty your hands with it all ?
can't you just leave them to it ?
I like Clive
Something to do between the charity work lol
You'd have liked our new project if you were still in UK - no plans to take it abroad yet
is tamara thomas going to be arrested :P
yes i like anything that involves the ZX Spectrum
I doubt it lol
i managed to track down the graphics artist of abadia del crimen earlier this week as i really want to release a translation of that game as it's never been played much by people outside spain and it's great but i heard from him that the programmer paco killed himself :(
I got a load of titles to put on wos when it's done - loads that aren't supposed to have existed :)
like what ?
I can say one between me & you
sooty & sweep 2
that would be good to review some time
is it a good game ?
i always found sue quite powerfully erotic
haven't played it lol
how many games are still to go up and when will it all happen ? will there be the major promised overhaul ? are you leaving or staying with it ?
At the moment it's all on hold - there were a few offers to take over, but once the devs found out what was involved they all backed out
if my overhaul goes ahead it will be new year - initially it was going to be November but I stopped work on it
well it will be good to see some progress being made it's been idle a long time !
It's a bugger when t
The project is like this as 85% of the code is backend
a pain in the bum i am sure !
i don't know much about that but i have a mate who is a wizard with such things i can barely do my own website
the whole point of it is so that not one person maintains the data when its done
right i am going to bed as it's about 12 here interesting to speak with you perhaps you can fill me in on what transpires tomorrow as it'll no doubt be another twist in this dramatic project !
yes that would be better
plus there is a shit load of new data that can be put in, and I have over 2500 hi-res inlays to put in
make it something like the music site discogs where people can add and change data
and it gets taken down by other members if inaccurate
each page has the option to submit a change, admin does the change, then it's live but needs approval
seems the most sensible way
plus selected members can add admin comments to a page to discuss details - possible that people submitting changes will be part of the discussion in case there's any questions
okay mate i'm off i have to get myself downstairs to let the dog out before i go to bed myself !
what's going on then mate who has been sent to chokey ?
can you ask your prick of a mate "richard" to behave himself, too, there's no need to keep mentioning me when i'm not saying anything to him. this is also a campaign of harrassment and we know what happens with them :P
You have to be kidding me
no i'm not kidding you but if you want things to be that way then whatever.
i'm not the one opening police complaints on people for doing the exact same thing, bear that in mind.
after everything you've said and posted about me online and in videos, you are offended by richard? I've passed the message on, but he's nothing to do with me apart from being a forum mod. I don't even know what he's said to you?
pass it on to me if you want me to take a look but all I can do is pass the message on
everything i've said is true, mate, as opposed to the bullshit you folks post in that nest of vipers of yours.
anyway, if that's the way you want things to be, so be it.
you've called me every name going
and nothing Andrews has fed you is true. It's all drawing to a close now anyway
i've not been fed anything by anyone, mate. i've reported the way you've behaved and that's that.
if you don't like people saying you've been a wanker, don't be one !
Seen by Lee Fogarty at September 6, 2016 5:36 pm