Vega+ Shipping Dates
- End of September 2016
- October 2016
- In time for Xmas 2016
- February 2017
- A "few weeks" from March 10th 2017
- Summer 2017
- 8 weeks from August 9th (October 4th, 2017)
- Mid October 2017
- April 2018
- May 8th - 12th 2018
- May 12th 2018
- May 31st 2018 (Indiegogo deadline)
- June 15th 2018
- July 6th 2018
World of Spectrum
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Sunday 1st October, 2017
Jan Saggiori posts Jamie Ball and George Cropper's personal information into the "democracy" group. Jan posts a link to a Gizmodo article about TheC64 called I'll Take This Miniature Commodore 64 Over A Tiny SNES Any Day, wrapping the following pigeon English text around it:
This is a gross invasion of privacy, as neither Jamie Ball nor George Cropper have anything to do with TheC64. Both gentlemen live in Spain, neither of them work for Retro Games Ltd or have any shares in the company. Several people have reported Jan Saggiori's post to facebook and suggested George contact the police.top
Monday 2nd October, 2017
George Cropper releases a new video called THE VEGA+ IN OCTOBER ? OF COURSE NOT !Jan Saggiori's post containing the addresses for George Cropper and Jamie Ball from Sunday October 1st has been removed from facebook after multiple complaints by facebook members. Facebook stepped in to remove the post, and issued a warning asking to contact them if it happens again and providing a case number.
Shortly after the post was taken down, Jan has re-posted a slightly modified version. Members of the community have been quick to report this post, but so far it remains online.top
Tuesday 3rd October, 2017
Backers on Indiegogo are urging people to report RCL to Action Fraud over false delivery dates and stolen money. The form takes between 5 and 10 minutes to fill out. A selection of crime reference numbers that have been submitted so far:
Jan Saggiori (admin of the "democracy" facebook group) has setup a fake website duplicating many elements from TheC64 campaign, and publishing the address and phone numbers for George Cropper, Jamie Ball and Paul Andrews. We will not publicise the URL of Jan's fake website, but instead redirect any interested parties to the official Bum Fun Gaming website along with the official TheC64 website.top
Wednesday 4th October, 2017
RCL miss their 7th deadline! On Wednesday the 9th of August, RCL released update 61 stating "We aim to begin shipping the Vega+ to backers within the next 8 weeks, and to follow this immediately with our first shipments to retail. And to the RCL trolls, we’re not going anywhere. Peace out". The 8 weeks ran out today.
Today's failure to release the Vega+ surprises very few people, as RCL have not sent out the address confirmation and roll of honour emails, PEGI certification has not been applied for, the games list isn't complete and even the box design isn't finalised.
In the "democracy" facebook group, Jan Saggiori has purged more than 50 members. The current number of members has dropped from 319 to 257 and Jan is now demanding backer numbers when anyone attempts to join the group. Jan Saggiori is not a backer himself yet has bragged about having the complete backers list in what would be a major data breach:
Jan Saggiori has also created a new fake twitter account to expose the details of George Cropper, Jamie Ball and Paul Andrews. The account includes a fake picture with George's head on it.
George Cropper releases a new video called VEGA+ TEAM RESORT TO DOXXING!
The twitter troll account Bob Smith is attempting to "dox" various people in the retro gaming community that have asked for the truth from RCL. Andy Kavanagh, Isofarro and Codetapper have all been targeted in tweets similar to this:
You could be right. We should stay with just posting addresses. Can't find codetappers, just his employers.— Bob Smith (@BobSmit07276327) October 4, 2017
Thursday 5th October, 2017
We have noticed that Andrews UK has submitted their annual accounts, and named RCL and its directors in them as refusing to pay the debts confirmed in writing by David Levy. According to the notes in the submitted accounts, Levy refused to pay the debts whilst at the same time paying himself, and although Andrews UK will attempt to recover them in due course, it has not affected the otherwise healthy position of the company.
Preston Thomas has tweeted that his wife Tamara has stepped down as admin from the "democracy" group after the "doxxing" by the remaining admin Jan Saggiori:
#zxvega— Preston Thomas (@Retro_Speccy) October 5, 2017
Just to let you all know my wife has stepped down as admin from the demo group and she does not agree with whats going on.
Lee Fogarty has claimed that George Cropper (who runs the site Bum Fun Gaming) does not actually live in Spain, and resides in Scotland. George denied this in his video response from yesterday, and Preston has also confirmed Lee is wrong by confirming a batch of games he received from George last year were indeed sent from Spain.
Can I just point out to everyone that the games I had from George came from Spain and not from Scotland as some believe.#zxvega— Preston Thomas (@Retro_Speccy) October 5, 2017
The site MMO Fallout has posted an article called Crowdfunding Fraudsters Update: Retro Computers Ltd Sanctions Doxxing, Slandering Competition. The article's main content relates to "3rd wheel" Jan Saggiori and his slanderous comments.
Many in the community have deduced the fake Bob Smith twitter profile as Lee Fogarty:
The mention of AndrewsUK and Joe Larkin can only mean the sock belongs to a certain Lee Fogarty. It's his pet grudge, blinds him.— isofarro (@isofarro) October 4, 2017
Your comments and nonsensical ramblings are identical to the crap you used to PM me. You're some clown Lie!— Graham Kenny (@grahamken) October 5, 2017
It's like playing hide and seek with a child. They think they're hidden but we all see the curtain shaking and the shoes peeping out.— Graham Kenny (@grahamken) October 5, 2017
Come out from behind the curtain Lee, we all know it's you.— Graham Kenny (@grahamken) October 5, 2017
Twitter have investigated and found the fake twitter account created by Swiss hacker Jan Saggiori is in breach of violations.top
Sunday 8th October, 2017
Lee Fogarty posts on Spectrum 4Ever that there will be highscore competitions during the day at the Spectrum 35 event on Saturday October 28th, and the prizes will be limited edition Vega+ units. This appears to be a real slap in the face to the poor backers that are still waiting for their Vega+ units for the best part of 18 months. Lee's post:
Please note that some of the comments in the post have already been deleted from the thread.
Jonathan Cauldwell posts several messages blaming George Cropper and 4 or 5 other people for "destroying the community".top
Tuesday 10th October, 2017
Lee Fogarty has deleted 3 of his twitter accounts: @FogartyLee, @FogartyLee2 and @WorldOfSpectrum. Various archived snapshots are available:
- @FogartyLee: 22 Mar 2017, 27 Sep 2017, 27 Sep 2017 with replies, 29 Sep 2017 with replies
- @FogartyLee2: 18 Sep 2017
- @WorldOfSpectrum: 14 Jun 2017
Wednesday 11th October, 2017
RCL spokesman/contractor Lee Fogarty has now deleted his facebook account. Despite rumours that Lee is suicidal, two people have spoken with him to confirm this is not the case:
Lloyd: Is Lee Fogarty ok? He seems to have deleted his account?
Guy: Steve Brown called him earlier and he's fine.
Richard Chandler: Lee's ok. People causing him shit and he's having to deal with it. Easier to do it offline.
With Lee deleting his facebook account, he has also removed himself as the admin from the Spectrum 35 facebook group. The Spectrum 35 event is due to take place in a few weeks time, with Lee Fogarty set to hand out up to 17 limited edition Vega+ prizes on offer. (This calculation is based on 4 categories, with teams of up to 4 people, and at least one extra prize for a high score competition on the day).top
Thursday 12th October, 2017
Jan Saggiori has admitted he created the fake profile @DuncanJamesBall on twitter. In a private message, he posts the following when asked about the fake account::top
Friday 13th October, 2017
Ping Pong Studios has an active proposal to be struck off on Companies House. Ping Pong Studios is another in the long list of companies involving David Levy, Suzanne Martin and Janko Mrsic-Flogel that has never submitted accounts, and is set to be dissolved.top
Saturday 14th October, 2017
The last remaining admin of the "democracy" group Jan Saggiori is manning the fort, telling everyone that the Vega+ is mere days away. He appears to be using the word "we" more frequently in his most recent posts. (Jan Saggiori is not a backer, and has never been one).top
Sunday 15th October, 2017
Suzanne Martin has been spotted liking posts on the "democracy" group today.
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Monday 16th October, 2017
RCL miss their 8th deadline! On September 1, RCL released update 63 and extended the deadline in their "Happy Friday" update when they said, "Well, it's the first day of September and we are on track for the Vega+ reaching your game-hungry mittens by mid October." With no update since then and based on 31 days in October, today is mid October and their 8th successive delivery failure.
George releases a video called THE VEGA+ - NO OCTOBER DELIVERY
RCL post update 64 on the Indiegogo campaign, showing a low quality video of 3 random clips of metal being processed in some machine. The YouTube video currently has 23 thumbs up and 123 thumbs down, and people are furious with RCL for posting this "update". The full text of the update:top
Tuesday 17th October, 2017
George Cropper issues a full teardown of Lee Fogarty's admission of guilt (from yesterday) in his latest video called THE VEGA+ - THE MOUTHPIECE ABANDONS SHIP! This is a 48 minute extravaganza so grab a cuppa and tune in!
RCL post update 65 on the Indiegogo campaign, indicating their intention to send out the roll of honour emails in the coming week. This is the 4th update that RCL have mentioned the impending roll of honour email. Another interesting thing to note is that RCL say the chosen name will be "on our new website", implying the current Lee Fogarty hosted site may be changing again.
RCL appear to have ripped the Spectrum Heroes image from the RedBubble website and have illegally used the Pickford brothers Zub character in their Indiegogo update (bottom row, 4th character from the left). John Pickford has demanded the removal of the character, but Zub remains on the Indiegogo campaign update:
At the time of writing, there are 17 comments on the page, all negative towards Lee's statement (which has been completely picked apart by George Cropper) and all along the lines of "Lee is a liar", "What about all the abuse Lee sent himself", "Why is there no apology from Lee" etc.top
Wednesday 18th October, 2017
Nick Cooper's court case against RCL is scheduled for this afternoon.
RCL appear to have sent out the roll of honour email. The cut-off date for the name is Friday 27th of October, so the "mid October delivery" has been well and truly missed. Several people on facebook groups have posted comments wondering how (and why) they received the email at a different address than the one they registered with on Indiegogo.
RCL post update 66, another puff-piece claiming that they are receiving really supportive emails. Perhaps RCL should have a good look at the 200-odd refund requests in their inbox and action those first?
It appears RCL have used multiple different accounts to send out the emails, as there is a 2,000 limit on the free version of MailChimp. Many people receive the email from a gmail address, others from suzannemartin.com.
The Vega+ has been mentioned as a dead project on episode 2 of the ugvm podcast. The podcast mentions that even long-term supporters such as Lee Fogarty have now walked away. Listen to just the Vega+ section from the podcast.top
Friday 20th October, 2017
After checking with lawyers, Paul Andrews releases a copy of the RCL shareholders agreement to clear up misinformation being spread by David Levy.top
Sunday 22nd October, 2017
RCL post update 67, claiming that 80% of people have signed up for the roll of honour:
However, the Indiegogo comments section includes a large number of people claiming they have not received the email, it's not in their spam folders and they have had no response to communications sent to RCL.top
Friday 27th October, 2017
Codetapper posts on the public discussion facebook group that Suzanne Martin has contacted his employer after making up a series of false allegations against him. Suzanne Martin failed to provide evidence for any of her claims, and Codetapper posts that because of her nonsense, he will be refraining from public comment.top
Saturday 28th October, 2017
Spectrum 35 event takes place at the Centre for Computing History. Back in May 2017, Lee Fogarty had announced a new game competition with limited edition Vega+ units as prizes to the winners of each of the 4 categories. He also stated that winners would be announced at the event, and the winners would be able to collect their prizes.Lee was allocated a half hour slot at 7:30pm to perform the prize-giving duty. However Lee arrived late to the event, hid as much as possible and was advised to leave the event after his involvement in the Vega+ fiasco. No confirmation of winners was made at the event, and no prizes were handed out.
In the Spectrum for Everyone facebook group, Thomas Eberle posts "Lee handing over the first prize of competition (after) the Spectrum35 to Urs König" showing a photo of Lee in a pub:
The post causes an uproar in the group, as backers were supposed to be first to get their Vega+ units before anybody else. The unit in the photo does not match the "limited edition World of Spectrum branded Vega+" prize stated in the original competition, nor the "white unit with World of Spectrum logo in a box" as Lee said on 16 October 2017:
A member of the group asked if Thomas Eberle had permission to post the photo, and asking if the two people in the photo knew about it. According to Thomas, both Lee and Urs had given permission:On the World of Spectrum forums, members ask about the winners of the game competition. (12 hours later, there is still no reply by the admins):top
Sunday 29th October, 2017
It has been revealed that the photo of Lee Fogarty handing over a Vega+ to a "competition winner" yesterday was staged. Thomas Eberle (who posted the photo) did not get permission from Urs (sitting on the right hand side in the photo), and the photo was taken in the "Baron of Beef" pub. The Vega+ was not Lee Fogarty's, and Urs only had the Vega+ briefly:top
Monday 30th October, 2017
RCL release update 68, with yet another delay for the Roll of Honour confirmation. The update also mentions updating delivery details for the first time:top
Friday 3rd November, 2017
Backers that contacted the Solicitor's Regulation Authority with regards to RCL have begun to receive replies similar to the following:
The extended registration deadline for the Roll of Honour confirmation passes without any comment or acknowledgement from RCL.top
Tuesday 7th November, 2017
Nick Cooper has been declared bankrupt, meaning RCL have spent a fortune on lawyers with no chance of getting any money from him.
Facebook group members have noticed the Real Crooks blog was updated with 2 new articles. We have not been able to verify any of the information contained in the articles Ronnie Biggs or The Sunday Club.top
Wednesday 8th November, 2017
It seems the honour roll has not been closed after all, as RCL release update 69 containing more delays and a strange request regarding new colours:
This "update" is remarkably similar to the update from October 25, 2016:
Lee Fogarty posts on facebook indicating that testers found almost 50 problems with the Vega+, and only one was mentioned in the update. (Please note that this post has now been deleted from the RCL facebook group):
George Cropper releases a video called THE VEGA+ - MORE SKULDUGGERY!
It has been revealed that the game creation competition (featured on the World of Spectrum forums) to promote the Vega+ did not receive a single entry.top
Thursday 9th November, 2017
Lee Fogarty posts on the World of Spectrum facebook group, including a file attachment Vega+ - Task Report - 08 November 2017.pdf:
A follow-up reply from Lee Fogarty: "You should see the email conversation following my chat with the author of ULA+. I passed on the reason for the issue, and the solution to fix it to PP and the reply back was that I was wrong. And it was an extremely simple fix.". (Note: PP = Private Planet, Janko Mrsic-Flogel's company)
The official RCL website (on IP address 220.127.116.11) shows "An error was encountered [ 503 ] Account suspended" message (archived copy):
One hour later, the message changes to "An error was encountered [ 503 ] Account suspended due to non-payment" (archived copy):
A short time later, the RCL website changes to a plain error page containing the sentence "Under Construction New Website Coming Soon".
Suzanne Martin comes out of hiding for 2 comments on the democracy group:
Jan Saggiori (the remaining admin on the "democracy" facebook group) claims to have insider knowledge that Suzanne Martin is receiving 10,000 spam emails per day from heaters:top
Friday 10th November, 2017
The Register publishes an article by Gareth Corfield called ZX Spectrum Vega firm's lawyers targeted by empty-handed backers. Highlights from the article:
- Disgruntled customers of ZX Spectrum Vega+ firm Retro Computers Ltd have complained to the Solicitors’ Regulation Authority (SRA), alleging ringfenced company funds are being diverted into its legal battles.
- The gist of the grievances is an allegation that some of the £513,000 given to RCL by 5,000 members of the public to put the ZX Spectrum Vega+ handheld console into production was instead spent on lawyers’ fees during a battles over control of the company that produced the devices.
- London solicitors’ firm Michelmore LLP, the firm which has acted for RCL over the last year, ignored an invitation to comment on the SRA complaints against it.
- RCL MD David Levy told The Register: “We are not interested in commenting to The Register due to its repeatedly biased reporting.”
15 minutes after The Register article is published, RCL releases an update on Indiegogo showing a 90 second video of random pieces of equipment being processed in a machine. The end of the video switches to several photos of what appears to be casings of the Vega+, possibly from the small prototype production run manufactured a year ago. The video currently has 6 likes and 36 dislikes, and comments require moderation to prevent bad publicity.
In an unfortunate turn of events for RCL, YouTube recommends George Cropper's most recent video THE VEGA+ - MORE SKULDUGGERY as the the next to watch if you view the entire RCL video:
RCL have thrown Lee Fogarty under the bus with a facebook post saying that Lee has at no stage been a part of the Vega+ production process, that his name was erroneously included on RCL statements and that he is no longer a contractor:
RCL are deleting comments from the thread as quickly as possible, hence the mismatch between facebook reporting 17 comments made yet only 2 are visible. This post seems to be a complete turnaround from earlier in the year when Suzanne Martin had nothing but praise regarding Lee Fogarty:top
Saturday 11th November, 2017
Lee Fogarty posts the following reply on facebook regarding RCL's statement:
Lee Fogarty issues a statement on the World of Spectrum facebook group, claiming that Suzanne Martin has been ringing Lee at least 5 times per day, 7 days a week for the past 18 months, often in the early hours of the morning whilst hysterical. According to Lee's statement, Suzanne Martin begins asking, then demanding, then threatening:
David Levy emails Lee Fogarty after his post today:
David Levy's son Alastair Levy has deleted his twitter account after being asked about his father David Levy by various tweeters. Alastair Levy received £1562 from the "ring-fenced funds" for taking photos at the launch party. Despite RCL claiming the photos were taken at the launch party, camera metadata shows almost all the photos were taken a week after the event.
A backer asks "Any chance that we might actually see the console this side of Xmas? I bought it last year as an Xmas prezzie to myself which never happened!" Suzanne Martin answers with weasel words "Yes, definitely". A follow up message asks Suzanne to clarify whether her statement means the console will definitely be out or if there's definitely a chance it will be out. Suzanne ignores further questions.
Darren Melbourne posts the following message regarding RCL's Tweaking the Design video:top
Sunday 12th November, 2017
Stuart Ashen records a fantastic audio version of Lee Fogarty's statement regarding Suzanne Martin. (MP3 backup available).
Jonathan Cauldwell begins to distance himself from RCL:
Paul Dunn (contractor for the Every Child Can Code website) posts that RCL ignored him and he is still owed money:top
Monday 13th November, 2017
Lee Fogarty posts on facebook looking for work:top
Wednesday 15th November, 2017
For the second month in a row, the Vega+ has been mentioned as a dead project on episode 3 of the ugvm podcast. The podcast mentions that even long-term supporters such as Lee Fogarty have now walked away. Listen to just the Vega+ section from the podcast.
Lee Fogarty posts an announcement that all World of Spectrum administrators are being stood down (archived backup):top
Thursday 16th November, 2017
Lee Fogarty claims that the @WorldOfSpectrum twitter account is fake:
In what appears to be an incredible coincidence, the @WorldOfSpectrum twitter account went down the exact same time as the @LeeFogarty twitter account, around the time Lee claimed that Suzanne Martin asked, then demanded, then threatened him to delete all his social media accounts:
The @WorldOfSpectrum twitter account was setup in June 2008 and was used to abuse Paul Andrews, Nick Cooper, AndrewsUK and various others. As of today, all except the latest tweet (about the game Xelda) has been deleted from the account.top
Friday 17th November, 2017
Rival project TheC64 receives a PEGI rating of 7. This is notable due to the fact that the Vega+ was started a long time before TheC64, the Vega+ is nowhere near ready for release, and that Lee Fogarty stated the following in a private message to a backer in March 2017:
Monday 20th November, 2017
A member of the public discussion facebook group posts regarding lawyers Michelmores being on the Solicitors Regulation Authority panel. Due to the conflict of interest of Michelmores themselves being named, they will not be able to partake in the investigation into Teacher Stern or themselves. According to the poster, this may delay the SRA ruling a little, as it was due to be decided within a week and the first known complaints were lodged at the end of October 2017.top
Wednesday 22nd November, 2017
Long time RCL supporter Derek Chandler posts on the "democracy" group asking if anybody has information about the final delivery date.
An hour later, admins on the group delete negative posts from the thread:
Dave Wayne posts on facebook claiming that he knows where the plastic moulds for the Vega+ are being made:
Friday 24th November, 2017
After spending thousands of pounds of backers money on David Levy's pet project Every Child Can Code, the website is reduced to a holding page:
Suzanne Martin has sent complaints to Twitter that resulted in Daniel Newby and Nick Cooper's twitter accounts both being locked for 12 hours.
Saturday 25th November, 2017
Funstock continue to sell the original Vega console (despite Retro Computers Ltd not owing the IP), but have reduced the price to £49.99. Discussion on facebook suggests the reduction is a cash grab for Xmas since the RCL website no longer exists, and that sales of the console were sluggish. On September 21, the Vega console was reduced to £66.66 by Funstock, undercutting the RCL website.
The Spectrum Show episode 67 features a review of Jonathan Cauldwell's game Egghead Goes to Town. Backlash has been caused by an apparent deliberate middle finger to the 4772 backers by creating a room featuring the Vega+ Production Line at 22:54:
Caldwell doubles down on ruining his reputation.— Sean Robertson (@SeanR1974) November 25, 2017
Good job! pic.twitter.com/LY5SW3QCVQ
In response, someone creates a version of the production line featuring moving conveyor belts but no Vega+ consoles:
Thursday 30th November, 2017
A member of the public discussion facebook group notices that RCL's confirmation statement is overdue on Companies House. If a company doesn't have any changes to tell Companies House about, it only takes 30 seconds to file online and costs £13. It is a criminal offence by the directors to not file the statement.
The Retro Computers Limited website is back online - sort of. The website has not been configured correctly, so results in an animated 404 error page when you hit the front page. A number of links do appear to be working, and RCL appear to be once again taking money for sales of the Vega and Vega+.top
Friday 1st December, 2017
The Solicitors Regulation Authority replies to various backers regarding the lawfirms Teacher Stern LLP and Michelmores LLP. The reply basically says that after reviewing the case, they have decided further action must be taken and they also said they have their top men working on it.top
Monday 4th December, 2017
Lee Fogarty posts in the World of Spectrum facebook group to say he has reported RCL to Action Fraud:
Attempting to view the Retro Computers Limited website results in the following message appearing:
An Error Was Encountered [ 503 ]
Please be patient whilst we desperately try to hack the server software that has been disabled due to non-payment. We realise this is illegal to do so and appreciate it not being posted on twitter.top
Tuesday 5th December, 2017
After Lee Fogarty's "hacking" of his previous employer's website, the RCL site now consists of a single background image. The image can not be seen properly on the majority of screens because the author clearly does not understand HTML. The entire code for the page is as follows:
<html> <body background="bgimage.jpg"> </body> </html>
The image (2048x1536 in size) should have been displayed like this:top
Wednesday 6th December, 2017
Anon y Mouse tweets a scanned document that appears to show Suzanne Martin purchasing social media engagements from Devumi - a social media marketing company. The scan shows payments of $97 per month for the 8 months from September 2016 (proposed original Vega+ release month) until April 2017. A total of $776 appears to have been spent in this eight month period and was allocated to the sinclairzxvega twitter account to create fake audience engagements. The plan indicates payment is for 1000 daily engagements.
#ZXVega+ Leak! Here's RCL paying for Twitter likes and other such social media black magic... ***with backers' money, of course***. Because it's more important to be "liked" than it is to spend money on manufacturing... pic.twitter.com/LlLmV8bdt8— Anon y Mouse (@LevySexRobot) December 6, 2017
Thursday 7th December, 2017
Anon y Mouse releases a document from late 2016 showing that RCL ordered 37 but took delivery of only 5 prototype Vega+ units. RCL had previously promised that all backers would have their units by Xmas 2016.
Remember when RCL said the #ZXVega+ would be under the Xmas tree LAST year? Shame they only managed 5 instead of 5000. As far as we know, the other 37 units are on back order still... Thanks moley moley mole, keep the documents coming. pic.twitter.com/afukadyxH2— Anon y Mouse (@LevySexRobot) December 7, 2017
Friday 8th December, 2017
Lee Fogarty posts on the World of Spectrum facebook group claiming that Suzanne Martin has reported him to cyber crime:
Most of the comments in the public discussion facebook group are of the opinion that Lee has made up the majority of the story:
- Cyber crime was a TV term to describe a department, the official one for the UK is the NCCU.
- Lee would have surely been asked to provide his ICO registration to prove the handling of critical user data was securely stored since Lee appears to be holding financial data well beyond their original date of purchase.
- Because of the nature of the crime taken they will have advised Lee that this would have been looked into by EMSOU (East Midlands Organised Crime Unit), especially given the evidence Lee had provided to them of people's financial and personal details, which would be forwarded to SEROCU (South East counterpart).
- If Lee had really received a call from the 'cyber cops' due to RCL complaining, due to the paperwork involved they are not going to care about online bullying or creating more aliases as this won't impact the freezing of assets which is the NCCU's primary goal to stop crime.
- Another poster states: I know people who've reported actual cyber crimes - genuinely serious and dangerous cases of stalking - and waited months for any movement. The idea that "Cyber Crime" would be this quick off the mark for what is essentially a minor spat between two tiny businesses is laughable.
Another twitter account has been locked due to "posting or sharing privately produced/distributed intimate media of someone without their express consent". Suzanne Martin is not the chief censor for the internet, so the offending material has been added to the media takedowns page.top
Saturday 9th December, 2017
A member of the World of Spectrum facebook group posts asking Lee why he went along with Suzanne Martin's dodgy shenanigans instead of distancing himself from RCL when he knew what was happening. His lack of ethics were also questioned. Lee posts:
Preston Thomas (author of the Vega+ News Mic Drop in March 2017) has officially quit the ZX Spectrum scene after having being doxxed (having his address released):
#zxvega Well I hope you are happy now. I am gone from the ZX Spectrum scene after being doxed. For those that were talking to me decent I can only take my hat off and thank you. As for the rest I just hope you get what you are trying to find. Good luck on your future endeavours.— Preston Thomas (@Morcar1975) December 9, 2017
Sunday 10th December, 2017
Lee Fogarty adds a donate page to the World of Spectrum website. In 2016, Lee stated that he was quitting the World of Spectrum but that the hosting costs were not a problem for him. Since the funding from RCL has been turned off, it appears that funding has become a problem after all.
A member of the public discussion facebook group notices that the prices Lee Fogarty is asking for his server hardware requirements has been marked up approximately 250% compared to the prices shown on the Fasthosts dedicated servers page.top
Tuesday 12th December, 2017
The Oliver Twins have tweeted in support of donating money to Lee Fogarty's World of Spectrum site. A large number of replies have been posted, almost all against the idea, and many include warnings to read Lee Fogarty's history before even considering donating money to him.
World of Spectrum is improving it's service of preserving & making freely available everything about the ZX Spectrum.— The Oliver Twins (@TheOliverTwins) December 12, 2017
If you were a fan of the Spectrum & would like to help preserve this little bit of history, please show your appreciation by donating:https://t.co/9a7oqr513N pic.twitter.com/iTvv4KVfOp
Wednesday 13th December, 2017
Gareth Corfield publishes an article discussing the sacking of Lee Fogarty from RCL called Former ZX Spectrum reboot project man departs. Highlights from the article:
- Fogarty alleged on Facebook that police had become involved as a result of RCL MD Suzanne Martin calling them in. It appears that when Fogarty departed the company he disabled its website, allegedly over unpaid hosting fees or similar, which prompted Martin to ring the plod. Fogarty then alleged on Facebook that Martin was behind certain pseudonymous Twitter and Indiegogo accounts which had been "trolling" RCL's backers.
- Suzanne Martin attributed the following response to Dr David Levy: "Firstly Lee Fogarty was never a spokesperson for Retro Computers Limited and he has made a number of misleading damaging and false statements about which he was warned on several occasions. This is is (sic) just one of the reasons we ceased to have him work for us. Furthermore, shortly before this decision was made Mr Fogarty admitted to both doxxing, trolling and that a number of accounts were set up on his company, Creative Spectrums server. Given our zero tolerance policy on on (sic) such matters we dispensed with him.”
- Suzanne Martin added: “Mr Fogarty appears to claim to have taken the blame for trolling when in fact this matter was thrown out by the court and therefore no blame was apportioned. Finally, unlike some other crowdfunded projects such as the The C64 and it's [sic] associated products we still plan to deliver the specified Vega+ to our backers in the very near future.”
- Fogarty denied "trolling", publishing private or identifying information about individuals (doxxing), and setting up fake accounts.
- RCL has still insisted it is sitting on more than half a million pounds of other people’s money, despite the numerous and drawn-out High Court cases which would have run up legal fees of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of pounds. RCL took that money from the public on the clear understanding it would manufacture and deliver a product it had already designed.
TheC64 (mentioned by Suzanne Martin) is a retro-themed gaming product that is already in production and being delivered in early 2018 by former RCL director Paul Andrews. TheC64 receives regular updates, unlike the Vega+.
Lee Fogarty has setup a Patreon campaign to accept funding to create the World of Spectrum replacement site. So far the campaign appears to be as successful as Lee Fogarty's other ventures, with 0 backers donating any money.top
Saturday 16th December, 2017
A change.org petition is setup with the title We want to see Suzanne Martin, David Levy and Flogul (RCL Ltd) prosecuted for FRAUD/THEFT. It is widely known that Suzanne Martin is a big supporter of change.org petitions as evidenced by her public profile facebook page, so hopefully she will add her name to the growing list.top
Tuesday 19th December, 2017
The Vega+ is once again mentioned as a dead project on episode 5 of the ugvm podcast. The podcast mentions that the project has gotten worse, and compares the communication of the Spectrum Next Kickstarter with the utter lack of communication shown by RCL with the Vega+ campaign. Listen to just the Vega+ section from the podcast.top
Wednesday 20th December, 2017
RCL director David Levy is quoted in article on The Daily Mail called Annual sex robot convention is axed from London's Goldsmiths university over fears it would provoke a terror attack by Muslim extremists. Highlights from the article:
- The Third International Congress in Love and Sex with Robots was due to be held at Goldsmiths university in London today but has been moved to secret location
- Extra security officers have been drafted in to patrol new venue in north London
- Adrian David Cheok co-founder of conference said Malaysian cops alerted them
- Event was due to hear a pitch from David Levy claiming humans and robots will soon make babies
Friday 22nd December, 2017
A member of the public discussion facebook group notices that the original ZX Vega is available for sale on the Argos website, and by staying on the page for a little while, the site reports how many have been ordered in the past 48 hours. Assuming the figures on the site are real and not artificially inflated, Argos have sold £990 worth of units in the past two days. A suggestion is posted that a few complaints should be made to inform Argos they are selling a product with absolutely no support and that RCL do not even have a website (as one of the Argos staff suggested a customer to visit in the Q&A section).top
Saturday 23rd December, 2017
A new article appears on the Real Crooks blog called Suzanne Louise Martin – In Sickness and in Wealth (archived backup available). The webpage contains a large number of allegations, including that Suzanne Martin claims she is suicidal in official bailiff and court documents when she loses in court, that Suzanne is claiming social security benefits for living alone while living with her boyfriend (who may be using an alias himself) in Ramsgate, and that Suzanne wears disguises whilst walking her dog. The post also includes a phone number to ring anonymously for her victims: National Benefit Fraud Hotline - 0800 854 440 (call between 8am and 6pm, Monday to Friday).top
Sunday 31st December, 2017
Jonathan Cauldwell tweets that he only managed to complete two ZX Spectrum titles in 2017. On August 12, Jonathan Cauldwell promised that he would write all 1000 games for the Vega+ if necessary, after earlier promising (on May 7, 2017) to quit the Spectrum scene forever if the Vega+ console never comes out.
Somehow I managed to find the time to write two games in 2017, Jubbles and Egghead 6. 2018 marks ten years since I started work on Arcade Game Designer and it's still taking up most of my development time— Jonathan Cauldwell (@ZXSpectrumDev) 1 January 2018
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Confirmation of the shilling that went on from certain individuals during this absolute scandal. What a disgrace!
Well it seems justice has prevailed for once and no surprises there to be honest what a ridiculous bit of behaviour !
"Our Indiegogo campaign is to raise funds to manufacture the first 2,500 or more units of the Vega+ in the UK, and to prepare us for the second production run."
— RCL (15/02/2016)
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